FEG PA-63 Is My Carry Weapon

by Ray Mills
(Haymarket Va. )

I really like this gun. I am new to CCP (about a year) but this has been my carry gun since I got my permit. I like this gun for many reasons. It is light. 9x18 Makarov is a punchy round. It is surprisingly accurate. I actually can group in about a 50c piece at 25 yards.

I read that the KGB used to carry this gun. I feel that if they carried it and used it, it probably has some merit. I know most people do not like the Makarov round but I converted a friend to the gun recently. It is not something you see normally but I guess that is something else I like about it. I really am not one who follows the norm. What I read was that the KGB carried this gun for many years and recently changed to a different weapon and these guns are now surplus and usually in very good condition. mine looked new.

Price is another good thing about this gun. The gun cost me $136.00 plus shipping and FFL transfer. I think it was around $180 total. The rounds look similar to a .380 but I think they are a better round.

Ammo is readily available. When everyone I go to the gun show with runs over to the Ammo guys to hurry and get their ammo. I just walk over there maybe stop at a couple of booths. If something catches my eye I pick up what I need. (I am about setup to reload these I just have not run a batch yet.)

The thumb rest on the left side of the grip. Very comfortable and fits into a pocket if need be. needs to be a larger pocket though.)

Negatives.
There is only one that I have found. At 6'6" and 245 lbs I have very large hands, the slide sometimes rubs a groove in my first knuckle of my thumb. But it is minimal. After shooting 1-200 rounds at the range I will have a red line on the top of my thumb. :) It is a hazard of the job but I enjoy it so much.

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Jun 07, 2014
Improving the PA-63 NEW
by: Anonymous



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Dec 19, 2013
PA63 MAGS INTERCHANGE NEW
by: TOM SISSON

IS THE MAG FROM A POLISH PA63 USABLE IN THE FEG PA63? BOTH SHOW TO BE 9X18

Nov 27, 2013
My PA 63 NEW
by: Ed T

I have owned my FEG PA 63 for two decades now and I love it. For those who have feed problems use 600 grit wet/dry paper and lightly sand the feed ramp, I smoothed mine out and I've had no miss feeds.
I want to point out a miss conception I see in this post and other sights when discussing the FEG PA 63. Not all PA 63's use the 9X18 Makarov cartridge!! Look at the left side of the slide if it says 9mm short, it ONLY takes 380 9X17 cartridges.

My PA 63 is two tone aluminum and steel chambered in 380. It shoots great feels good and is very comfortable to carry. Old faithful holsters sells a Do It Yourself kit to mold an ISW holster. Mine is really nice. I will post photos later. God bless Ed

Nov 27, 2013
feg info NEW
by: angelo

FEG Arms Factory of Hungary started producing Walther PP/PPK clones in the late 1940s starting with their Model 48 which differed from the Walther PP only in minor details. By the late 1950s FÉG began making broader changes resulting in the PA-63, which uses a 9x18mm Makarov round. It quickly became standard issue to both Hungarian military and police forces. Due to its popularity and relative durability FÉG later issued models using .32ACP and .380 ACP caliber rounds (FEG AP9 and PMK-380 respectively).

The Military standard PA-63 version sports a two-tone polished aluminium frame with black slide, grips, trigger and hammer assembly. While unusual for military issue in that a reflective polish was used, it was chosen due to its relative cheapness as well as quicker build time. Problems related to the durability of the aluminium frame were resolved prior to the development of the PA-63 in 1961 with the production of the FEG R-61 Police Pistol. The addition of .1% titanium to the aluminium alloy solved premature alloy frame wear problems inherent in the earlier FEG aluminium framed pistols. This development was then applied to all aluminium framed FEG guns including the PA-63.

The Makarov Label

PA-63s sold in the United States are often advertised as "PA-63 Makarov." This can lead some consumers to believe they are purchasing a Makarov PM pistol instead of a pistol which is only chambered for the 9 x 18 mm Makarov caliber. The two guns share similar operating principles, but the Makarov PM is a different design featuring all-steel construction and different lockwork.

Nov 27, 2013
feg info NEW
by: angelo

FEG Arms Factory of Hungary started producing Walther PP/PPK clones in the late 1940s starting with their Model 48 which differed from the Walther PP only in minor details. By the late 1950s FÉG began making broader changes resulting in the PA-63, which uses a 9x18mm Makarov round. It quickly became standard issue to both Hungarian military and police forces. Due to its popularity and relative durability FÉG later issued models using .32ACP and .380 ACP caliber rounds (FEG AP9 and PMK-380 respectively).

The Military standard PA-63 version sports a two-tone polished aluminium frame with black slide, grips, trigger and hammer assembly. While unusual for military issue in that a reflective polish was used, it was chosen due to its relative cheapness as well as quicker build time. Problems related to the durability of the aluminium frame were resolved prior to the development of the PA-63 in 1961 with the production of the FEG R-61 Police Pistol. The addition of .1% titanium to the aluminium alloy solved premature alloy frame wear problems inherent in the earlier FEG aluminium framed pistols. This development was then applied to all aluminium framed FEG guns including the PA-63.

The Makarov Label

PA-63s sold in the United States are often advertised as "PA-63 Makarov." This can lead some consumers to believe they are purchasing a Makarov PM pistol instead of a pistol which is only chambered for the 9 x 18 mm Makarov caliber. The two guns share similar operating principles, but the Makarov PM is a different design featuring all-steel construction and different lockwork.

May 02, 2013
Trigger doesn't work NEW
by: Barry

Was firing it just fine, put four mags through it and it just stopped. No trigger pull. Using good clean ammo. Cleaned gun well still no trigger pull. I've had the gun about 10 years, probably put 500 rounds through it. Any ideas what's wrong? Thanks

Mar 19, 2013
springs NEW
by: Pablo

There are several things to kook at, The springs (there are Wolff replacements), the mags, the rounds, or the feed ramp. You will find your issue in one of these areas and if you don't I'll buy it for spare parts.

Mar 17, 2013
Feeding problem NEW
by: Bud

I have the PA63 in 9short (the 380) and I like it but it has developed a feed problem. I've switched to a finer synthetic lube oil and it still will not feed consistently. Help

Feb 20, 2013
9x18 NEW
by: Pablo

It depends on the model there were some that were sold in this country that were in .380. If it is an original (two-tone)then it is 9mm Mak and you should not shoot .380 out of it. Check the frame for the caliber or take it to a good gunsmith.

Feb 20, 2013
Love the page NEW
by: knkwoodcrafts

glad to see that my PA-63 purchase was not a stupid one... I am confused Is the 9mm short a 380 or a 9X18? I was sold the gun with 100 rnds of 380 ammo. I have been shooting it with 380 should I change?
also I would like to find a good IWB holster for ccw. Any suggestions?

Feb 01, 2013
FEG PA63 ammo suggestion NEW
by: Badcard10

CGO I love your website... also love my Feg Pa63. Of all my pistols I consistently find myself trusting this weapon as my carry. Fiocchi of America in Ozark, MO makes an excellent 9X18 Makarov ammunition that cycles flawlessly in mine.
I have not seen many comments regarding the simplicity and ease of maintenance on the Feg. The disassembly into 3 pcs can be done pretty much anywhere, anytime.

This weapon has a lot of punch for something that fits in your jeans pocket and I hope I never need it. Pray for our country and as always...
"set your eyes to Zion"

Feb 01, 2013
FEG PA63 ammo suggestion NEW
by: Badcard10

CGO I love your website... also love my Feg Pa63. Of all my pistols I consistently find myself trusting this weapon as my carry. Fiocchi of America in Ozark, MO makes an excellent 9X18 Makarov ammunition that cycles flawlessly in mine.
I have not seen many comments regarding the simplicity and ease of maintenance on the Feg. The disassembly into 3 pcs can be done pretty much anywhere, anytime.

This weapon has a lot of punch for something that fits in your jeans pocket and I hope I never need it. Pray for our country and as always...
"set your eyes to Zion"

Aug 15, 2012
Me too! NEW
by: AJG

Great website! I carry a PA63 as well, IWB holster. Not too uncomfortable, but pretty easily concealable even in summer.

Jun 21, 2012
Over penetration NEW
by: 9x18 fan

For those concerned with over penetration with a ccw, there's good news! 9x18 is almost the perfect round. 8 inches is max and to boot these small frame pistols are extremely accurate out past 25 yards. There is no need to mess with hollow points or frangable ammo. They don't feed well with the low pressure blow back system anyway :-). FMJ is your best bet due to the relatively low speed of this wonderful round. When in doubt go for the heavy grain bullet and feel secure that if you squeeze the trigger you will get joy every time. Those Commies got this one right!

Apr 27, 2012
FEG quality NEW
by: Anonymous

I carry my PA 63 Mexican, (no holster). Even with
my sweat, the slide will not rust. I'm pretty sure
it's stainless. I have a 11 lb. hammer spring that
has never failed to fire. The barrel is chrome lined, the frame is aluminum. Magazines are readily available. The Europeans have been killing
each other for centuries. They make great guns.

Bobby in KC

Dec 28, 2011
Grips for the PA-63 NEW
by: Gary St John

I found some very nice grips at this website.
http://www.marschalgrips.com/fegpa63/fegpa63.html

Aug 31, 2011
hungarian p63
by: possum lodge

my p63 does not completely close after firing a round. I have to push the reciever a quarter inch to finish the job. Any idea's on how to fix this problem?

Jun 14, 2011
Great Sidearm
by: archer_922

Buymilsurp.com has a good selection of parts for the PA-63. The spring you are looking for is the Ejector Spring, the cost is $7.00 plus S&H. I was missing the same spring on my second PA-63, I have two of them and they have been my choice for CCW carry since I obtained my license several years ago.

The ammo that I use is made by Barnaul in Russia. I puchased 2 cases of it about 4 years ago and have had no problems with it, cost about $100.00 for a case of 1000 rnds, however these cases can not be reloaded as they are made of steel.

I read through the comments here and found it interesting that the big guy wears a crease in his thumb when shooting his PA, would like to recommend that if you are using your PA-63 or any handgun for self defense that you consider that the other guy is probably shooting at you, he might not miss and you could find your normal shooting hand out of action, so practice shooting with both your strong hand and your off hand as well as different positions. This is something that should have been covered in your NRA Approved CCW Class.

Good Luck and Good Shooting,

Art
NRA Endowment Member
archer_922@msn.com

Apr 21, 2011
missing springs on my PA 63
by: Anonymous

I am missing the slide stop spring on my PA63 and would like to update all the springs. As much as I love this gun,It's perfect for my wife and I want to make it like new for her.
Can anybody help?
mnaselli07@gmail.com

Jun 16, 2010
CONGRATS!
by: MDeezie1287

congrats on a great weapon. I am not a BIG fan but i have shot them before and they are very effective/reliable. I am about 20 mins away from you in Ashburn, VA and i'm glad to see SO MANY people who carry concealed. Especially in this area. I am VERY happy for you and wish the best in the future. God bless....

May 03, 2010
..followup thoughts.....
by: Len in Richmond

..Just one more comment... I finally broke down and ordered and installed a Wolff 15 lb. replacement recoil spring and a Wolff replacement hammer spring in my PA63. What an amazing difference! I shoot at an indoor range and they use made-in-the-USA Federal Cartridge Co. "American Eagle" stuff, including the 9X18 Maks, and they go through my PA63 with no trouble at all, although I HAVE had problems with that "other" stuff in the past... Just adding my 2 cents worth!

Apr 06, 2010
I second that emotion
by: Pablo

Years ago I was a gun dealer, kitchen table. I have had a lot of experience with various makes and models. It was this particular pistol that started my love with eastern bloc pistols. When I was financially depressed, I had no money for a "real" pistol so I brought my first PA-63 for well under a 100.00 . I worked for a 24 hr pharmaceutical company that had me delivering all kinds of meds at any hour of the night. Sometimes, I would be delivering narcotics and too often I had to cross police lines to deliver. My pistol had a smooth even pull, the original owner probably had the action worked on. My first time at the range blew me away because at 20 yards I ran two magazines of 9x18 into one ragged hole. I never felt underarmed while carrying this gun because I knew it would put bullets where I wanted them to go. I ended up giving that particular pistol to my sister because she was working late for the DEA and later the FBI. Things were very dangerous for her and I wanted to make sure she would be ok. She still has the gun and try as I might she will not give it back, she thinks it's cute. Go figure. I still love this gun and think that it is well made, a steal for the amount spent.

Mar 28, 2010
Love PA-63 But won't fire Sellier-Belloit
by: 11385

I fired about 200 rounds through mine the other day with Sellier-Beloit 9MM Makarov, about every third round mis-fired. I have some Silver Bear and it seems to work ok with no mis-fires. Anybody know why the SB ammo won't work? By the way I fixed the recoil by adding a 15# recoil spring and put a 9# hammer spring in, what a great gun to shoot. Took an NRA Class a little embarrassing with all the mis-fires. I won't carry anything but this handgun for CCW!

Nov 26, 2009
CAI
by: Dale

CAI = Century Arms International, distributor.

Nov 25, 2009
..followup note re: PA-63 ...
by: Len in Richmond...

... a fllowup note to one I posted a while back... well, I finally got the chance to "pop some caps" on my FEG PA-63 today. I'm not bragging, but I put 50 rounds all into the center bull's-eye..... yes, it does have a surprisingly "robust" recoil, but I am quite surprisingly pleased with the weapon. Fired flawlessly - no fail-to-fires, no jams, nothing but fun....! a Happy and Blessed Thanksgiving to one and all......!! (and, yes, that sorta/kind wierd left-hand grip does "grow on you" after a while....!!).....

Nov 03, 2009
Makarov 9MM
by: Jerry

I carry A FEG-63 For its Power and Liteweight,for A
Small 9MM It is very powerful and very Accurate.i live in a stae where with a carry permit you can take your weapon anywhere even state and federal parks,i am thankful to live in the great state of Tennessee and the USA

Nov 03, 2009
LEN
by: Anonymous

I think the CAI might be an Import mark I am not sure. If I were you I would try the stock grips first because I did not like the stock grips in the beginning but I am really digging them now. It does take a bit getting use to but once you do it fits like a glove. Hope you enjoy this one as much as I do. You will be impressed at how this one feels when shot. The accuracy is better than any small gun that I have ever shot.

Nov 02, 2009
...my new (?) PA-63....
by: Len in Richmond...

....Happy Monday to one and all...! at a gun show held outside of Richmond this weekend, I must have had a moment of weakness and purchased a (supposedly...) FEG PA-63 9X18 auto pistol. (It is actually marked CAI.... did I screw up....??) But.... (there is always a "but....") it had no magazines... no problem... found some in the internet.... but those factory plastic grips are awful.... anybody have any ideas on some nice wood (or hard rubber...?) replacement grips...? any comments/observations/grips/BMC (Bitchin', Moanin' and Complainin'.....) would be gratefully received......

Nov 01, 2009
my ccw
by: Sgt Franky

I've used the PA63 as my ccw for the past few years. I got it for $139 new in the box. The Soviets didn't design their weapons to be junk. I've not found another ccw that I prefer more than it. First time out with it, I didn't care for the trigger pull or the recoil. As another poster mentioned, there is an excellent spring kit you can get for this gun. After installing the new springs, it shoots like a champ. It still smarts after a day of a hundred rounds, but that's to be expected. It's accurate enough. Hits a bit harder than a 380. It's SO light weight. It's quick and easy to use. Best of all, it's reliable. I've never had a misfire yet. It's everything you could want in a decent concealed carry gun. I use an iwb holster for mine. When I have it on me, I can barely tell I'm wearing it. An excellent buy! ps: The man at marschalgrips.com makes custom wood grips for these guns. I got a set for mine and they look beautiful.

Oct 07, 2009
PA63 & 9x18 Mak rd in general
by: Dave Weaver

Have developed a liking for the 9x18 Mak round and the pistols. Unlike .380, it has been plentiful during the past 11 months. Was amazed at the accuracy of my PA63 and carry it often--- open bottom holsters for Walther PP/PPK fit perfect. Based on the performance of the PA63 & 9x18 ammo I invested in a couple of Makarovs (Bulgarian & E German)and a CZ82. The rugedness and reliabiity of these "off the beaten path" pistols is amazing and the 9x18 round is every bit as effective as the .380. I too like pistols that are somewhat out of the ordinary.

Oct 05, 2009
Ammo
by: Ray Mills

I have found that Brown Bear ammo is a better choice for the PA-63. I think it is a lot cleaner, not that this gun cares. For Carry purposes I use Glaser rounds (blue tip) I like the idea that they will not penetrate through. It makes it safer for someone that may be standing behind the bad guy and I do not have to worry about it. I hope to never have to use it like all of us but if I ever do I do not want pause because I worried about passing through and hitting someone that does not deserve it.

-Ray

Oct 04, 2009
FEG PA-63
by: Maddmedic

My son has one also. It is surprisingly accurate, ammo is readily available and fairly cheap(if you don't mind Wolf ammo!). My boy is only 14 soon to be 15 and finds the recoil a bit harsh. I have heard that Wolff has a replacement set that tames it somewhat. All in all a good little gun at a real good price when he bought it...well Dad did and in Dad's name...I would not be afraid to carry this gun as it is easily concealable. But it was the accuracy that was such a nice surprise!!

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